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Not all of you know my friend [livejournal.com profile] microbie, so for those of you who do. . . I apologize to you for showing you something you've already seen.

The rest of you - LOOK AT THIS!!!

Although there is a reference in the margin to Landover Baptist, suggesting to me that this might be a hoax, it is so well *koff koff* done, that it is difficult to tell.

What's sad is that, even as a hoax, there are people who think just like this. I know some of them. As [livejournal.com profile] microbie expressed so well, it's hard to know whether to laugh or to cry in the face of such a reality. In the end, we wind up doing quite a bit of both, I think.

hahaha

Date: July 2nd, 2003 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corto.livejournal.com
I clicked, read, and then came back to ask if this was a joke... I see it is.

My father (dr. of dentistry) has a "best friend" from university... a dental surgeon... who believes no-questions-asked-do-not-go-there in creationism and that darwinism is pure bunk. He astounds me in his narrow mindedness... I mean, he's an educated doctor.

The argument theory goes like this;

When I lay myself down to sleep at night (say's the creationist) my beliefs will have had no impact on anything. Therefore let me have them and stop pestering me with your science...

That's all well and good except the reality is that more death and war and intollerance has been handed out to the masses because of wrong headed religious beliefs than for any other reason throughout history.

To quote Douglas Adams... "That otherwise intellegent, education people still believe in religion is beyond me."

Re: hahaha

Date: July 2nd, 2003 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bramey.livejournal.com
We have some folks right here in our biology department who still don't believe in evolution - our department has one of the best Evolution and Deveolopment research programs in the nation. . . these people work here - in the program, even!

Boggles the mind, really.

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashfault76.livejournal.com
*snicker*

that's funny (I'm making the assumption that it's a joke).

This was one of my favorite parts:
...two of their students presented a project on human anatomy entitled "Allah (SWT) Created Me" which, while it was found ineligible for a prize due to a number of Biblical inconsistencies, did win a special Interfaith Outreach ribbon.

That and the "Life doesn't come from non-life" project were laugh-out-loud funny. :-)

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bramey.livejournal.com
You did read the one about prayer inducing antibiotic resistance in E. Coli, didn't you?

I'm going to post that one in the lab. That's priceless - absolutely priceless. Clay just about died laughing.

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashfault76.livejournal.com
yeah, I saw that one too. It was funny, but didn't get quite the laugh out of me as the image of a jar with a charcoal briquette, a multi-vitamin, and water sitting on the windowsill for three weeks waiting for life to spontaneously evolve.

*still laughing*

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bramey.livejournal.com
*sputter* I missed that one! LOL!!

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kendokamel.livejournal.com
Gosh, I sure hope it was a hoax... I mean... "scientific proof" that women are designed to do housework?!?!

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bramey.livejournal.com
Well, women earn less than "normal" workers - there's your proof right there!

Tsk. What more do you need, woman? Take off those damned shoes and get your lazy ass back in the kitchen!

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whizkid1357.livejournal.com
i think pay inequity just sucks. there is no reason at all for women to earn less than men.

i personally would have no problem staying at home, if someone else would go earn a living :)

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microbie.livejournal.com
One of the graduate seminars I took at Stony Brook was a very old prof's way of trying to explain to us that science and religion can coexist but shouldn't mix. It was wasted on us, a class of atheists.

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bramey.livejournal.com
Barf.

(I'm sorry, did I just say that out loud?)

I really, truly, can't stand that argument.

Did no one debate with him? I imagine a room of annoyed grad students with cocked eyebrows and wry grins on their faces. I imagine them just listening to a man go on and on while they shake their heads and wonder. . . I don't know if I could have put up with it. I have a big mouth :-D

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microbie.livejournal.com
Nah, he was a professor emeritus and he didn't tell us that that was the point of the whole seminar until the last class, which was at his house (and a lovely house it was). Mostly we were all stunned, and it took us a day or so to recover and say, "what the hell was that about??"

At least he was an ecologist and not an evolutionary biologist.

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bramey.livejournal.com
:-D At least.

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Date: July 2nd, 2003 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wog.livejournal.com
That's either extremely depressing to both our ends of the issue, or it's a ingeniously subtle joke. I suspect the latter. :-)

The "auditorium" is unlike any of a church that I've seen. Wouldn't you expect pews? At least a layout more centered around a stage?

http://objective.jesussave.us/

Read the "cult alert." Heheh...

For the safety of your soul, do not be tempted by the lure of impulse rock chip repair from strangers in parking lots. It may say free, but it could cost you your soul! If you need your windshield fixed, go to a qualified Christian repair shop.

Indeed.

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Date: July 3rd, 2003 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bramey.livejournal.com
Gee. So I go to a repair tent in a parking lot and risk being prosyletized by cultists. . . but go to a qualified Christian repair shop and risk being prosyletized by evangelicals.

Is nowhere safe?!?

Jinkies!

Heaven help us, indeed!

It may be a joke, but it's still depressing, considering the numbers of people in our country who subscribe to the kind and degree of thinking reflected there. Sadly, the joke is not far from the mark - at least, I've seen and heard plenty of it in the town where I live.

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